Author Topic: Central NY FF Series in the Works (Read 1278 times)

Ken Crane · « **on:** December 26, 2011, 08:07:57 PM »

Hope everyone has had a great holiday. Here is what is in the works for events in the Central NY Region. The point of this post is to get the word out sooner than later in terms of dates.

April 22 (confirmed TL Bronze event)
Chittenango Creek

June 2-3
Nine Mile Creek, Chittenango Creek, West Canada Creek, TBD

July 14-15
Nine Mile Creek, Chittenango Creek, West Canada Creek, TBD

Aug 26
TBD

More Details to come as I get every detail nailed down, beat sectors, practice etc. It is my hope to get some of the non local TL community up to 1 of the 2 day events this summer to check out some of the water and abundance of WILD fish we have to offer here. I know Nine Mile Creek is going to raise a lot of excitement for anyone who has ever fished there.

I am also working with Loren Williams (http://www.flyguysoutfitting.com/) on a Saturday Clinic April 21st and August 25th. Again details to come.

Thank you to Chris Smith, Bill Steudler, Kalvin Kolaz, Loren Williams and Dejon on all their help and guidance on putting these together. I am very excited to get these up and running and make these yearly events.

Paul Bourcq · « **Reply #1 on:** December 26, 2011, 08:10:42 PM »

Exciting stuff. If you need anything from us in NC let me know! We have multiple comps a month for 2012....this is good stuff.

Ken Crane · « **Reply #2 on:** December 26, 2011, 08:28:35 PM »

I will be in touch with you and Chris if anything comes up. I learned a lot from watching how the SF Classic was run. You guys put on some solid events down there and best of all a lot of them. It is my hope to get down for one or two of the 2 day events down there a year. More comps = more experience and if you read Kalvin's post you know where I am going with this.

Still to be explored for comp possibilities are Adirondack and Catskill Regions... but must crawl before I run.

Daniel Podobed · « **Reply #3 on:** December 26, 2011, 08:54:12 PM »

I am interested in these, especially the clinic with Loren. I'm looking at booking lessons with him.

John Killinger · « **Reply #4 on:** December 26, 2011, 10:46:11 PM »

It's catching on....big time

Dejon Hamann · « **Reply #5 on:** December 27, 2011, 02:57:26 PM »

Great stuff Ken. Just takes 1 motivated person in a region to get things rolling!

Ken Crane · « **Reply #6 on:** December 28, 2011, 02:11:34 PM »

1st Event Detail: http://troutlegend.com/forum/events-and-announcements/chittenango-creek-comp-april-22nd-syracuse-ny/

Chris Smith · « **Reply #7 on:** December 30, 2011, 01:30:43 AM »

Great job Ken!

Ken Crane · « **Reply #8 on:** December 30, 2011, 11:02:31 AM »

Upper Sector of Chittenago Creek

Lower Sector of Chittenago Creek

West Canada Creek

Nine Mile Creek:

Loren Williams · « **Reply #9 on:** December 30, 2011, 01:10:23 PM »

WC "Creek"

Ken Crane · « **Reply #10 on:** February 09, 2012, 11:08:58 PM »

I am excited to say that we have been given access to NY's famed Salmon River's first 2 miles of water which is part of the Douglaston Salmon Run. DSR for short. This will be 1 of the venues for our July event!

This venue will feature wild and stock browns, wild rainbows, fall fish as score able resident fish. There is a chance you will get an ass kicking from an Atlantic Salmon or Summer Run Steelhead as well but these fish will not score and we will require any of these fish to be broken off as nothing less than a 7# will land one of these hot summer fish.

DSR is the place to fish for the Fall Run of Chinook and Coho Salmon and the fall/winter/spring run of Steelhead.

http://www.douglastonsalmonrun.com

Ken

Mark Hanes · « **Reply #11 on:** February 09, 2012, 11:35:00 PM »

Wait a minute salmon and steelhead would score in any other comp since the a salmonid species why cant they score here especially is fall fish can?

Greg Gondella · « **Reply #12 on:** February 10, 2012, 12:03:47 AM »

I am definitely in if we are gonna fish the DSR. Jason takes really good care of the the river down there. And you can get into some really nice browns(big points). Please keep updates going.

Ken Crane · « **Reply #13 on:** February 10, 2012, 12:13:37 AM »

Mark,
Purely for the safety of these prized fish. We will be fishing much to light to handle a Steelhead or Atlantic salmon in this river system.

It is the size of the venue I am after. Big water venues.

Ken

Ken Crane · « **Reply #14 on:** February 10, 2012, 11:15:21 AM »

Quote from: Greg Gondella on February 10, 2012, 12:03:47 AM

I am definitely in if we are gonna fish the DSR. Jason takes really good care of the the river down there. And you can get into some really nice browns(big points). Please keep updates going.

Jason just moved at the beginning of the year. Garrett has taken over and so far seems like he will fill Jason shoes nicely. It will give us 2 BIG WATER venues for the July event and 2 smaller stream venues.

Greg Gondella · « **Reply #15 on:** February 10, 2012, 11:16:58 AM »

Thanks for the info Ken, I will have to call Jason and give him crap for not telling me he moved. I just saw him over the Holidays and he never said anything.

Loren Williams · « **Reply #16 on:** February 10, 2012, 01:04:09 PM »

That is simply not true Mark. It is up to the organizers as to which species will be on the list of scoreable fish. In Sweden, Baltic Salmon were present but did not count. A number of anglers, including Pete E. indeed hook and landed salmon that could not score.

I recommended to Ken that fallfish be scored for a few reasons: 1) if the water is warm these fish may be all that some anglers catch 2) I happen to feel that they are pretty good imitations of EU grayling in how they behave, bite, and fight.

Quote from: Mark Hanes on February 09, 2012, 11:35:00 PM

Wait a minute salmon and steelhead would score in any other comp since the a salmonid species why cant they score here especially is fall fish can?

Mark Hanes · « **Reply #17 on:** February 10, 2012, 01:36:44 PM »

I am all for fallfish since they do act similar smaller trout. I enjoy fishing for them when the trout fishing goes south in some of my area streams.

Ken Crane · « **Reply #18 on:** February 10, 2012, 01:41:20 PM »

Correct, Loren mentioned I should investigate fall fish as they are present in SR and behave much like grayling. I have done my research and decided to allow them. DSR may or may not stock this year but there are enough browns, rainbows and fall fish to make the venue work. Again it is the SIZE of the venue I am after. So far this is what I am proposing to DSR who has a VERY strict NO KILL policy on TROUT and Altantic Salmon:

Fish that will score:
All browns
All rainbows
Fall Fish

Fish that will NOT score
Skamania Steelhead (bright silver, almost translucent this time of year)
Altanic Salmon (bright silver and very pronounced spots)
You will know if you hook one of these as you will be into your backing and out of your beat in about half a second.

Ken Crane · « **Reply #19 on:** February 10, 2012, 02:47:18 PM »

Registration for the July Event which will be called CNY Classic II will start Tuesday March 13th. Details to follow.

Ken

Scott Brown · « **Reply #20 on:** February 10, 2012, 05:24:53 PM »

Question from the Southland....what are "fallfish"? I am also not opposed to using my 7wt for a comp

Ken Crane · « **Reply #21 on:** February 10, 2012, 05:37:45 PM »

Fall Fish are similar to trout, they are a different species but live in same water, feed and act the same. I have never caught Greyling but Loren has and he compares them very closely to them. Salmon River has a good population of them.

Alain Barthelemy · « **Reply #22 on:** February 10, 2012, 07:29:17 PM »

You guys probably know I am a fallfish junky. They are superb gamefish. I would not say they behave exactly as trout however. They are far easier to catch and are a shoal fish, so they stay in groups. Early in the year when trout move in to riffles, fallfish tend to stay in slack water, but there is overlap. They spawn in the spring. In the summer, fallfish tend to get in the riffles, while trout may drop in to refuges. A lot depends on water temperature, like everything else in fishing. There are many places in CT where in August you could stand in one spot in current and catch fallfish all day non-stop on nymphs. They are a great training fish. In a comp setting, you might score 50 fish or more I would guess. My friends that pike fish also say they make excellent ice fishing bait.

Jim Frazier · « **Reply #23 on:** February 10, 2012, 09:28:04 PM »

this is one time i wouldn't mind being up "chitt" creek !

Scott Brown · « **Reply #24 on:** February 11, 2012, 07:09:35 AM »

Thanks

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