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Re: New RIO Euro-nymphing line
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2013, 09:40:47 PM »
I just ordered some and it should be in this week. I'll give a review on it once it comes in and I get a chance to try it on the water. Wish they wouldn't have put welded loops on it though.
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Re: New Rio Euro-nymphing line
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2013, 09:57:44 PM »
Pat, its double tapered. One end has welded loop, one does not.
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Re: New Rio Euro-nymphing line
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2013, 08:23:33 AM »
I was looking at that the other day and was wondering about the quality of it. I will be looking for the review.
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Re: New Rio Euro-nymphing line
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2013, 08:39:30 AM »
Ben, you're right, I didn't read far enough down. That's perfect. Does anybody have any suggestions on a good starting point for a leader would be for this line?

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Re: New Rio Euro-nymphing line
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2013, 09:00:24 PM »
Had a chance to fish with it over the weekend.   Very small creek and tight casting, not much room overhead.  7' 10" Sage TXL-F.  Casting up stream 5x fluorocarbon leader (casts under 30' - shallow water conditions).    Very light presentation.  Caught 3 under 10".    Good strike detection and orange tip provides good visibility.    Small fish did little to give the line a true test.  Works well in these conditions. 

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Re: New Rio Euro-nymphing line
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2013, 11:58:35 PM »
Pat, it will be really interesting to hear what you think of the line too.  It's definitely very intriguing, and I wonder how it will compare to other options such as an 0 wt or similar with respect to sag and sensitivity (among other factors).
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Re: New Rio Euro-nymphing line
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2013, 10:38:43 AM »
I received mine last week.  I haven't tried it yet, but this morning I measured the tapers on both ends.  The non-loop end tapers from .0225" to .0265" over a length of 15', which is about the same as a Rio LT DT 000wt.

The loop end is quite different.  It jumps from .0225" to .0245" over the first foot, then tapers to .0265" over the next 13', similar to a Rio LT DT 00wt.

I like the looks of the non-loop end better.  I'll give that end a try and report back shortly.

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Re: New RIO Euro-nymphing line
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2013, 08:31:44 PM »
I fished mine yesterday and like it very much.  I mounted it on my traditional setup for nymphing, the heavy Hardy Uniqua reel and JMC Triumph 10ft 2/3 weight.  For a leader, I chose a Hardy co-polymer 9ft 4X.  I cut off about two feet from the leader butt section, then tied a Perfection Loop and looped it to the line's loop end.  I tied a short piece of 6X fluoro to the co-polymer.  I fished a small stream, but wouldn't alter the rig much for larger situations.

The line is a pale green/olive color with very bright fluorescent orange ends.  One end has an incredibly slim loop, while the other does not.  The line is as limp as I've ever seen, and comparable in diameter to a typical leader butt section.  The line is not slick, and feels a bit dry to the touch.  It stays very straight in the guides and offers outstanding sensitivity.  Although the line is not slick, it shoots just fine for traditional casting.  It is very light, so when you are holding the line off the water, you barely notice the mass.  I did some traditional upstream applications where I let the line float, and it did so beautifully.

I didn't try, but you could definitely cast small dry flies with this rig also.  I used a single size 16 nymph and was easily able to control the rig out to 30 feet or more.

It's an excellent new product, and only costs ~$44.

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Re: New RIO Euro-nymphing line
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2013, 12:21:44 AM »
Alain,

Glad to hear you like the line. We played with several variations of the coating until we found a combination that would have a rough feel for better handling yet still shoot through the guides with small/light flies.

Keep me posted as you fish it more!!!

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Re: New RIO Euro-nymphing line
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2013, 03:58:50 AM »
Steve, by the sound of your last post I take it you had something to do with the development of this line. Could you please tell us more about it ? Like what action and line rating do you think best suits this line and what are the best points and worst points of this new line? I am going to order one regardless as it looks the goods . Looking forward to your reply David Hemphill

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Re: New RIO Euro-nymphing line
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2013, 09:33:23 PM »
Steve wrote a detailed report on the line and its development here:
http://info.bluequillangler.com/blog


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New RIO Euro-nymphing line
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2013, 12:29:09 AM »
I love this line for nymphing, but it is very difficult to cast when fishing dry dropper on my 2-wt Greys..


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Re: New RIO Euro-nymphing line
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2013, 04:10:02 AM »
Thanks Alain thats exactly what I was looking for.  Where is the best place to buy one of these lines online? Thanks David

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New RIO Euro-nymphing line
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2013, 08:01:49 AM »
They are only available on BQA.

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Re: New RIO Euro-nymphing line
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2013, 07:22:27 PM »
I fished with the line for the first time today, and I like it.  From a casting perspective, it felt the same as my Rio LT DT 000wt, which I like a lot.  But it wins hands down from a cost perspective ... $44.95 vs. $74.95 ... and maybe in some other respects.

For my test drive, I used my Maxia 10' 2wt rod and a relatively light 20' compound taper leader.  I attached the leader to the non-loop end of the line with a Krazy Glue splice, so it would slip through my guides smoothly.

I fished two nymphs weighing .5 to .7 grams at distances from 18' to 35'.  The flies turned over nicely and tracked well with a minimum of sag across the full range of distances.  I almost never fish dries, but tried that briefly just to see if I could deliver a dry with acceptable finesse.  I could.

This line is said to have less stretch than other Rio lines, for enhanced feel.  With the length of leaders I use, the benefits are certainly masked by leader stretch, but I thought I could feel bottom ticks and strikes better than with my 000wt line.

The texture of the line is a little grainier than my 000wt.  I don't know if that had any appreciable affect on performance, but it certainly wasn't objectionable in terms of hand-feel (unlike Snake-Skin lines, which I hate).

For me, the orange tip is pointless, because I use long leaders with sighters.  But the orange tip doesn't bother me, and it's definitely a useful feature for those who use short leaders.

Overall, a definite thumbs-up!

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Re: New RIO Euro-nymphing line
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2013, 07:48:49 PM »
Great review Matt.  Looking forward to trying one.

Did you try casting a very large bushy dry? Like a drake or indie fly? I always feel this is a separate test on it's own because of wind resistance.  A small dry or even small light nymphs don't have the same effect.  Just curious.
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Re: New RIO Euro-nymphing line
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2013, 08:16:17 PM »
Nope.  Didn't try that.  I used a #16 parachute Adams.

I suspect a big, bushy dry would work fine with a tailwind ... and suck bigtime with a headwind.

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Re: New RIO Euro-nymphing line
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2013, 07:14:07 AM »
Dejon,

The Rio Euronymphing line from Blue Quill Angler is not intended to cast a size 10 Wulff.  The line is intended to replace the long leader, not necessarily to be fished with a long leader.

With a short leader like I used, for in-close dry-dropper, it works just fine.    Dry dropper is best anyway when you hold the line off the water by holding the rod up high.  Bushy dry flies or indicator flies require a different setup when fished far from the angler.

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Re: New RIO Euro-nymphing line
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2013, 10:43:16 AM »
Yes it might not be designed for that function but I think its a valid question you need to be able to make a quick switch yeah its not designed to but if it can do it in a pinch at 30' that can be huge in certain situations.
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Re: New RIO Euro-nymphing line
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2013, 09:36:10 AM »
I am glad you guys all like the cortland comp line  ;D I like mine for streight nymphing in close . It will cast big drys short distances in a pinch but these lines aren't good for any distance or smaller drys 14-22 say . Mark dejon should be ok at 30 ' as he would not be loading the actual fly line just the leader  ;D  good luck guys

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Re: New RIO Euro-nymphing line
« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2013, 09:56:23 AM »
Got a chance to test out the new line yesterday. I started with my 0 wt line with a tapered leader setup and then about halfway through I switched to the new Rio line with pretty much the same leader setup. I didn't try any dry/dropper setups yesterday and fished a 2 fly rig the entire time. The line management and handling of the line is very similar to a long leader setup. Very little stretch and the hook set was dead on. I performed some 30' long nymph drifts with some success. It definitely excels close in and I suspect that a level leader may be the better way to go with this line. All in all, I think this line is a winner. It should be very good at nymphing on 3 and 4 wt rigs. I'll have to do some more testing with dry/dropper and single nymph fishing to get an idea on versatility.

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Re: New RIO Euro-nymphing line
« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2013, 03:43:51 PM »
Well, I got out again today for a few hours and only fished dry/dropper with the new Rio comp line. Gotta admit, I was really surprised it performed as well as it did. I threw a size 12 stimi with a size 16 hares ear nymph with a 2.5 mm bead. I was able to cast out to 30' with not a lot of trouble and even managed decent casts after the wind picked up. Landed over 30 fish using this technique today. I was using a 0X 9' leader with 2' cut off and replaced with my 3X sighter material. I added about 8' of 6X tippet from there. I would not hesitate to switch to dry/dropper in comps with this line. If I needed to cast further than that, then I'm not using any of my nymph set ups. I do think it might perform better with a 3X leader so I'll be trying that next. All in all, I think Rio hit a home run with this line.

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Re: New RIO Euro-nymphing line
« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2013, 08:32:42 PM »
I bought this line after reading Steve's review on BQA, but haven't had a chance to fish it yet.  I bought it primarily so I could eliminate the long tapered mono leaders that had memory and would often start to wrap around the rod tip.  That being said, I'd like to keep the total leader length to around 10' or so and eliminate having any mono leader inside the rod tip.  What would you all recommend for a dedicated nymphing leader?  I will likely just change spools or entire set-up for dry/dropper applications.  Thanks in advance.
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