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Degreaser Recipe
« on: August 29, 2009, 08:51:32 PM »
If anybody has a fullers earth degreaser recipe im interested in what you know.  I have been making some but am curious as far as other people recipes.   

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Re: Degreaser Recipe
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2009, 02:19:22 PM »
What formula are you using?

The standard is dish detergent/fuller's earth to a thick paste and a few drops of glycerin to keep it from hardening.

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Re: Degreaser Recipe
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2009, 02:21:13 PM »
Here's a nice little article on the floatant side:
http://www.drlogik.com/flyfloatants.html

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Re: Degreaser Recipe
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2009, 07:35:10 PM »
are you using liquid vegetable glycerin?  thats what ive been using

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Re: Degreaser Recipe
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2009, 08:20:50 PM »
So you're just using the liquid vegetable glycerin and fuller's earth mixture?  Do you have any internet links to the products and what ratio are you using?

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Re: Degreaser Recipe
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2009, 08:26:25 PM »
No im using dish soap, cosmetic grade fullers earth and liquid vegetable qlycerin.  No ratio.  I just winged the first batch and it worked.  Ive been using that batch for months.  I used to be a fine dining chef and we did alot of chemical altered food stuff so im kinda anal about ratios of stuff but for some reason ive not played with it to much.  Ill get something nailed down mixture wise and get back to you.  I tried that floatant out of white gas and parrafin and it is great but it only lasts so long and then its cashed.....and it stinks when it goes bad lol.

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Re: Degreaser Recipe
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2009, 12:44:40 AM »
I found this place has Fuller's Earth:
http://www.herbalhut.com/detail.aspx?ID=16085 (Haven't ordered yet, don't know the company)

And vegetable glycerin:
http://www.amazon.com/Glycerine-Vegetable-16-oz-Liquid/dp/B000ZMEYXC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1251693787&sr=1-2


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Re: Degreaser Recipe
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2009, 08:42:36 AM »
I am puzzled.  Keep coming back to this post for some reason.  Think it because I am missing how your using and whats the advantage of this Fullers De-greaser Recipe.

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Re: Degreaser Recipe
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2009, 09:26:53 AM »
It amounts to the same thing as Snake River Mud, but instead of super tiny little pinch of it for 5$ you get almost a life time supply when you make your own for under $20.

Here are the benefits as described by Loon:

"NAKE RIVER MUD
A biodegradable sink paste for leaders and flies. Sinks your leader but not your dry flies on spring creeks with wary fish. Helps nymphs and wet flies sink faster when going deep. Will not discolor your tippet.
1/4 oz.
F0247
MSRP: $5.95
PRODUCT TIP:
Work Snake River Mud onto leader with fingers and watch it break the surface tension. Rinse your fingers off in the water. Go ahead, it's biodegradable. Best for sinking leaders when fishing really spooky fish in still waters. "

Many top level anglers regularly degrease their leaders to break the surface tension and get rid of shiny fish spooky factory or human added elements. 

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Re: Degreaser Recipe
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2009, 06:17:09 PM »
Anyone ever try the snake river mud?  I have limited space to keep things like dirt so I was thinking of giving some a try.
Its not about the fish.

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Re: Degreaser Recipe
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2009, 06:32:59 PM »
I have some.  Works well, but it dried out quickly and is a very small amount.

Sidenote: At the Canadian Nationals I was using relatively new lake lines and leaders with unweighted flies.  I can't tell you how many curse words I let fly waiting for the belly of my sinking line to finally drag down the tip and leader section to break the surface film. If I would have doped them up with the Fuller's Earth I would have been sinking at touchdown!!!!!  Not to mention how badly this F'd up my delivery.  INstead of having a linear sinking approach on a type 3 I had a bow.

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Re: Degreaser Recipe
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2009, 09:55:24 PM »
Ok no problem I understand what you guys are refering to now.  I use snake river mud works great it comes in a small plastic container like the stanleys ice off paste-  it will eventually dry out.  I understand the concept thanks.

Here is the container size.

http://www.loonoutdoors.com/products/snakerivermud.html

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Re: Degreaser Recipe
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2010, 03:06:04 PM »
I am looking to get the stuff to make a batch has anyone come up with a good mix ratio?
Its not about the fish.

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Re: Degreaser Recipe
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2010, 03:59:32 PM »
Alright, this might be a stupid question, but can I use snake river mud to make mono sink faster?  I already use it on the flouro.   

<Why am I asking? the price difference.>

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Re: Degreaser Recipe
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2010, 07:37:13 PM »
Chris,

Mud won't make it sink faster--it allows it to break through surface tension by removing material that attracts surface tension.  Once it's under the film the properties of the line take over.  ST is at a maximum on dead flat calms.  I have had Type5 full sink lines float during those conditions until I yanked them under.

FC is denser and stiffer so it's down better and tangles less.  Worth the cost to me.

In a pinch guys, bend over and grab  handful of the real stuff (river mud) and use it.  It works just as well.  I carry mud more for boats, deep water, or freestone rivers.

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Re: Degreaser Recipe
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2010, 11:14:46 PM »
Thanks Loren.

 

 
 
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