Author Topic: What about the Hends leader? (Read 2445 times)

Clyde Olson · « **on:** July 02, 2011, 08:12:29 AM »

I've begun the journey of learning to cast a 'mono-only' nymphing rig(spurred on by my controlling at the SE and National USFFT quals), and currently am working with Dejon Hamman's "cheap Hends"(15'/#40Ultragreen + a Rio 9'/trout leader + tippit) and his shorter 16-17' hand-made tapered leader of Ultragreen and Rio tippit--- with an Echo 3106PE Shadow I bought for the effort. Going to the next level and actually buying a Hends would require a purchase at about $ 25./leader. Leader memory seems to be the bug-a-bo for me. I've boiled the #40 Ultragreen and Rio trout leader of the above hand made leaders for a total of 45 minutes(3 separate 15' boiling sessions) to get the material limp "as a 90 year-old senior". For us newbies to Euro-nymphing, what do you comp guys know about the hand-made vs. the Hends in gaining casting efficiency and accuracy twixt the two.

John Killinger · « **Reply #1 on:** July 02, 2011, 09:08:49 PM »

Ultragreen leader material is too limp in my opinion. I use a short leader hand tied using 25lb, 20lb, 15lb, sighter, and tippet. My base leader is 8-10' without sighter. I use maxima clear hard mono, turns the leader over good.

Dejon Hamann · « **Reply #2 on:** July 02, 2011, 09:33:47 PM »

I'm not sure the factory made leader will improve your accuracy. I know many guys who have hand tied/tailored leaders that are deadly accurate with them and probably wouldn't improve with an identical factory model.

For me it's just a measure of efficiency/laziness. Fewer knots to hang up in guides is a big plus.

Btw, can't believe they are 25buckeroos now, but one saving grace is, if cared for a bit it should last you a very long time.

Dejon Hamann · « **Reply #3 on:** July 02, 2011, 09:37:27 PM »

I haven't ordered from them but I just found em' here for $13:
https://www.flyfishingpoint.net/#/eshop/detail/cfl-350-hends-camou-french-leader-350-cm-0-50-0-18-4x-hends-camou-french-leader

Well worth that price. Got get one! I use the CFL_900 Camou french leader 900 cm, 0.57 - 0.21

Dejon Hamann · « **Reply #4 on:** July 02, 2011, 09:40:19 PM »

Same here:
http://www.czechnymph.com/en/e-shop/leaders-tippets/leaders/cfl-350-camou-french-leader-350-cm-0-50-0-18-4x-camou-french-leader

Clyde Olson · « **Reply #5 on:** July 03, 2011, 02:07:53 PM »

Ordered a couple Hends from CzechNymph.com. With UPS from the Czech Republic leader cost was 31 USD/leader. Ouch.

Chris Grose · « **Reply #6 on:** July 11, 2011, 12:44:10 PM »

This forum was recommended to me by one of the NC team members. I have really enjoyed it so far.

Can someone point me towards a formula for the Dejon Hamann's "shorter 16-17' hand-made tapered leader of Ultragreen and Rio tippit". There is so much information here, I could search for 6 months and still miss it. I am trying a bunch of different things so I can start fine tuning and personalizing.

Thanks and glad to be here.

Steven Good · « **Reply #7 on:** August 17, 2011, 10:19:11 AM »

I would like to recommend ordering from the site Dejon posted www.czechnymph.com I ordered 4 of the Hends leaders for about $ 12.80 each and 3 packs of UV dubbing that's really nice stuff and the shipping was just under $ 6.00. I think if you order more then $ 50.00 they cut you a break on shipping. I also really like the Hends leader but was concerned about the price however $ 13-14 dollars isn't bad, I have probably 12 days of fishing on one leader and there is no signs of wear.

Steve

Dave Wiese · « **Reply #8 on:** November 23, 2011, 10:21:28 AM »

I've just started fishing with Hends leader, very nice so far. Question - does anyone know if there's a US source for the Siman drop indicator?

Alain Barthelemy · « **Reply #9 on:** November 23, 2011, 10:59:45 AM »

Dave,

I make my own drop indicators, on par with Siman's. My favorite one is a 9-drop, with 4 FL orange, 1 black, then 4 FL chartreuse. They are awesome, sensitive indicators and float well.

Alain

Chris Puchniak · « **Reply #10 on:** November 23, 2011, 01:29:37 PM »

Alain, nice drop indicator - may I ask what size mono you use on it?

James Berzsenyi · « **Reply #11 on:** November 23, 2011, 02:48:54 PM »

Kevin's got em at Performance Flies too... $15.95 for 900 cm, $9.95 for 450cm

http://www.performanceflies.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=214

Also, free Hends book & DVD with $100 purchase...

http://www.performanceflies.com/default.asp

Alain Barthelemy · « **Reply #12 on:** November 23, 2011, 09:12:43 PM »

This is my favorite drop indicator, sorry the picture isn't better.

Chris, I make these on about 12lb test mono. I tested them quite a bit in the low late summer water, sometimes on light-biting fallfish. I find this color combination to be the most visible for strike detection.

Chris Smith · « **Reply #13 on:** November 23, 2011, 10:20:27 PM »

I'm going on 1 year with my current Hends leader...pretty affordable over the long haul IMO.

Ty Patton · « **Reply #14 on:** December 16, 2011, 09:18:16 AM »

Alain, nice drop indies, what are you using to make the drops if you dont mind me asking? I made some out of tshirt paint but after fishing it a few times the dots have broke free from the knots and now slide around all willy nilly like.