Hamann: Jeff, wanted to thank you again for taking the time to do this interview. Looking through your blog (http://flyfishingbum.blogspot.com/) you’re a busy man flying around the world fishing incredible destinations, so let’s jump right in. Quick recap: your bronze medal was earned at the 2003 World Championships in Spain. Could you walk us through the team you traveled with and a recap of the venues?

Currier: I fished on the team previously and in Spain we had the best team ever. Not to knock older anglers, but we were young. We could handle long demanding days, tough wading, change flies faster than a speeding bullet and crawl. Crawling was mandatory in Spain. The venues consisted of four rivers and one lake. Three of the rivers were small and crystal clear. In these rivers were small brown trout that were as spooky as any trout I’ve ever met. They weren’t always rising, rarely now that I think of it so you belly crawled along to stay out of view. I’d often spot one then attempt him with a dry first. If he didn’t eat the dry I’d do a dry dropper and by then you had him or spooked him. The fourth river was high and very off color. You just had to Polish Nymph it and pray. I lucked into three fish here. The lake was tough. Some beats were on the shallow end of the lake others were near the dam. You wanted to be as far from the dam and the deep water as possible. I got screwed; I was the third beat from the dam. It was a miracle I caught a fish in my beat.

Hamann: Backtracking just a bit. How did you gain a position on Team USA? What was the organization like at that time? Who were the key players/coaches? Did you win trials/regionals to make the team?

Currier:
Back in the days I got to fish there were no trials. You had to know the right people, such as a man named Walter Ungerman. Walter was a customer of mine in Jackson at the fly shop for years. I had a great relationship with him. When the competition was held in Jackson, WY where I lived at the time, I didn’t fish but I donated a lot of my personal time to help it run. Walter appreciated that and took me to the Poland Championships in 1998 as an angler. That was my opportunity to show I could help the team. I did well and I think the team scored 13th Place. 13th doesn’t sound too good, but it was the best Team USA ever did. I was 20th overall. I earned the right to go again next year and we continued to improve and I continued to get to go. Best of all, we added younger anglers each year.

After I retired from the Worlds, I participated in the first ever regional/nationals. It was held in Oregon and I got 2nd place. That helped me get chosen to come out of retirement for Portugal in 2006. That was my last competition as I never had the funding or time off from work to compete in the Nationals again.

Over the years the key players would have to be Jay Buchner, Pete Erickson and Sam Mavrakis. These guys can fish like you can’t believe. They can tie flies, something I suck at. They are fun. Their not afraid to go out and mingle with the other teams and try to get them to cough up some information that you normally can’t get. And most of all, they were great sportsmen and well respected by all other teams. That’s important. Towards the end of my run, Jack Dennis was coaching. He had some weird fishing ideas at times but he was fun. I liked having him around.

Hamann: Could you tell us some of the back story behind this passage: “Jeff Currier crawled, swam chilly waters cradling netted fish, and risked intestinal illness in an
attempt to reach the pinnacle of his sport.” (Quoted from an article by Michael Pearlman)

Currier: That quote came from an article after winning the Bronze in Spain. I already said crawling was mandatory. Honestly, these were the spookiest hard to see trout I’ve ever found. If you didn’t crawl you didn’t have a chance. The bad news however, you even had to crawl in the water. Sometimes I would be crawling up a riffle. The water would be gushing over the top of my waders dragging me downstream. Occasionally it would get in my mouth. I couldn’t let it stop me. If I stood up I’d spook every fish and there weren’t many fish.

Swimming to opposite banks was something I became well known for. One time the famous Thomas from the Czech Republic pulverized my beat before me. He had it in the morning and I had it in the afternoon. So imagine fishing a piece of water that was pounded by one of the world’s greatest anglers only three hours earlier. You are in bad shape unless you know where Thomas didn’t fish. Of course he fished all the good spots. On big rivers where you could not wade across, you knew the other bank was always virgin. I swam a lot of rivers. And in particular, I swam the muddy Aragon of Spain. This river skunked more people than any other river in the history of the Worlds Competition. I was the fourth angler to this beat and not a fish had been caught. I wasn’t about to fish the same water where everyone failed. You should have seen my judge’s face when I swam across to start. I caught my first fish in about 8 minutes and carefully held up my netted fish in one hand and swam best I could with the other. This action made me take in a lot of water. But I turned around and swam right back. Over the three hour beat I swam two more fish across. I was a drown rat and I did end up with some bad intestinal issues.

Because of my crazy crawling and swimming, I won a medal. I gave my body and soul for that medal and it was worth it.

Hamann: Heading into the final lake session you needed to “not blank” to win a medal? Tell us about that scenario? Must have been some heart-thumping pressure.

Currier:
I never felt the pressure. I was expected to fail. Not a fish had been caught in this particular lake beat. Plus, I was American. Americans can’t win a medal – right?
Nonetheless, I just went into the last session feeling confident. Somehow I knew a fish would swim by and he was mine. All I had to do was be myself and I’d catch his ass.

Up to this point, temperatures had been scorching hot. But between the morning session and the beginning of the lake session we had several monster thunderstorms and temps plummeted. Our coach, Ed Opler was waiting for the bus to drop me off at the lake. I got off and he said here’s the lake rod the team has been using. I looked at him like he was nuts. I said, “Ed, Team USA has yet to catch a fish on the lake. They all used that stupid rig. Why in the world would I use it when I absolutely need to catch a fish?” Ed really didn’t know what to say. He smiled and he followed me and my judge a mile walk around the lake to my beat.

Honestly, my body ached. I’d crawled and swam rivers for three days. My stomach problems were kicking in. And it was so cold I couldn’t believe it. I was actually shivering in my wet clothes and waders from my river session in the AM. When we got to my beat I pulled out my 5-weight and tied on a favorite fly of mine, the Thorax Mahogany Dun. Ed looked at me like my hair was on fire. I promised him that if a fish swam by he would not be able to resist the fly.

By the time the session started, it was calm and cold and the sky was thick with clouds. I leaned against a rock on shore in the best looking spot and cast out my fly. I stared at it for a few minutes and recast. Exactly 14 minutes into the three hour beat a 9” trout ate it and in three long strips he was in my net. Ed, me, my Polish friend Vladi and the judge were in shock. Do you believe in miracles?

I still thought I’d get 4th place to Simon Kidd of England. It turns out; our scores were so close it took hours after the competition ended to see who won. Not only that, we were dead tied in points. The over ruling factor was number of fish. I’d caught 27 in three days he’d caught 16. The bronze was mine.

Hamann: What were some of the advanced techniques, gear, flies that you utilized in your victory?

Currier: I kept it pretty simple. I realized right away, it wasn’t fancy flies and special Euro tactics that were needed. In Spain, you just try to get your fly to the fish before you spook them. You will laugh, but I fished a size 16 elk hair caddis with an olive pheasant tail nymph tied by Jay Buchner two feet below. Only once did I Polish nymph to catch a fish. That was on a particular river and I caught two with this method. That gave me 7 that session and a 3rd place in that session.

Hamann: Hindsight is always 20/20, but where did Team USA finish at that Championship and how do you think you guys could have also earned a team medal?

Currier: I believe we finished 5th. We were very, very close.

Hamann: Have you been following the sport of competitive fly fishing since your departure from Team USA? If so, how have you seen the techniques change since those days?

Currier: Yes. I root hard for our current team. When the team is off competing I check results on the internet ten times a day. I get really ticked when the results are late. The guys on the team now are exceptional anglers, and they have plenty of competition practice. That makes a difference. It’s like shooting an 8 ball to win a pool game. You may have never missed that shot in your life. But because of inexperience in competition you miss. The experience these guys have make them very good. I do hear of some new techniques. But I’m not too familiar with them. Now that I don’t compete, I just go out and vacuum rivers for fun with my fundamentals.

Hamann: How old were you when you won your medal? Could you comment on the “energy of youth” vs the “wisdom of experience” in competitive fly fishing?

Currier: I was 37 years young. The aches and pains were just starting to hit me. But in the heat of competition I didn’t feel a thing. At the same time, I was becoming a very wise angler. I thought things out well – presentations, the stalk, and what fly would be best. And, my experience allowed me to totally keep my cool. So basically I was at that one time in life where my body could still handle the beating of crawling, swimming etc and I got the bonus of having a clue of what I was doing. A great combo.

Hamann: Have the techniques you acquired as part of Team USA fueled your “recreational fishing” life? Or have you found that leaving those purely competitive focused techniques behind have led to your enjoyment of the sport?

Currier: When I go fishing, I go to catch fish. Sure, the famous line, “It’s just nice being out there”, has some truth to it, but if there’s fish to be caught I need to catch them. At heart I’m a dry fly guy and rarely nymph anymore. But if there’s a half hour left and I haven’t caught a fish, and I know Polish Nymphing will catch me one, I do it. I’ve also noticed that when I fish with friends they kind of gun for me a bit. They want to out fish me. Normally I couldn’t give a hoot, but if they start to do better than me and point that fact out, I step it up and enjoy teaching them a lesson. It’s great fun. People have no idea how many tricks I learned in the few years of World Competition. And if I need to fall back on one I will. I enjoy that in my recreational fishing days.

Hamann: And in that vein, do you think you may compete again some day? Or where some hat in the competitive fly fishing world?

Currier: I doubt I’ll ever fish in the Worlds again. That’s a young angler’s game. Unless it was a mostly lake tournament I probably won’t. However there are other competitions out there. I already do the annual “Bass on the Fly” held in Ririe, Idaho. This has been held for about five years now and I’ve placed in all but one. It’s a one day deal and my blood pumps hard during it. I love it. In addition, last year I fished in the Jackson Hole One Fly and I loved that too. I’ll be doing it again here soon. So the answer to your question is yes. I really enjoy the competitions and perhaps as long as they are convenient for me I’ll be there.

Hamann: With a great deal of time to reflect, what would you say are the key elements, whether physical or emotional, that elevate an angler from just “competitive” to medal worthy?

Currier: You need to be a damn good angler for starters. Once you have that going then you just need to elevate the rest. First you need to be in top shape. A three day, five session competition will brutalize the body. You need to learn to live without sleep. Be a superb swimmer, runner, and build your core – ever try crawling for three straight days? It’s the hardest thing you will ever do. Especially over rocks in cold water. And don’t let pain slow you down. You will be in a lot of pain but that can’t stop you. Standing up just once to stretch your back during a session could scare a fish you need.

Then it’s the kill instincts. In a competition you should never be satisfied. If you caught fifteen fish and that’s enough to win the session, who cares. Catch more. If there’s five minutes left in a session and you see a 9” fish but ten feet further up there’s a 12” fish. Don’t skip the 9 incher and go for the 12. Catch the 9 incher fast then catch the 12 incher. Every fish counts and every fish must be caught. I scored numerous fish in the last minute over the years and in Spain it won me a medal.

Last, there is the mental factor. You must be confident. You must know and expect that you will catch a fish. No matter what terrible beat you have or conditions you face. You will catch one if not more. And you can’t mess up an ordinary opportunity. You can’t get nervous because its competition. If a trout is rising and eating away he can’t be botched. You calm down and get the job done. If you’re netting a fish, you net him. You don’t lose him with a bad sweep of the net or knock him off. These are fundamentals that you are great at. You don’t screw them up just because its competition and you’re freaked out. The bottom line is you can’t make any stupid mistakes. None. Have your head together.

Hamann: Thank you again for the interview. Are there any closing reflections or thoughts you’d like to relay to those currently competing in the North American competitive scene?

Currier: Enjoy it. Enjoy fishing for a meaning. Enjoy working to prove you are the best. And along the journey learn as much as you can. There are so many great anglers out there and if you compete you have the good fortune of being surrounded by them. Every trick you can learn and apply to your own fishing makes you better. Even though your competition days may go away, these tricks of the trade will come in handy the rest of your life.

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Photo: Vladi Trzebunia & Lance Egan in Finland.

Hamann: So many questions so little time. Let’s jump right in: The first half of your career you engaged in many casting competitions. With the benefit of hindsight do you feel these prepared you for fips-mouche competitive fly fishing? Now that there are a few more fips events on the annual map what would you tell new competitors regarding casting vs fishing events?

Egan: Casting comps gave me a lot of confidence and helped me learn to calm my nerves. I’m not sure they prepared me for fishing comps, but they certainly made me more efficient. By casting accurately to likely water I can minimize the amount of time my flies are in poor water and maximize their time in productive water. Also, distance can play a big part on lakes or in windy conditions. During the final session in Finland I shared a boat with Yann Caleri, a highly skilled Frenchman. We fished hard, each challenging the other to out think, out work, and out fish the competition. I believe one of the factors that helped me beat Yann on the lake is my casting ability.
I would tell newcomers to competition fishing or casting to practice hard and enjoy! Both events are great fun and are very challenging.

Hamann: You’ve been to four World Championships with four very different angling topographies: Portugal, Finland, New Zealand, and Scotland. Tell us a little about how these different squads prepared for those competitions and some of the hurdles, setbacks, and keys to success you encountered?

In Portugal we had very little intel, and our practice sessions were producing no results. This was my first WFFC and I was as dedicated as ever to give it my all. After “practicing” on fishless waters for a week I was very disheartened. I remember George Daniel and I tying flies with Vladi in our hotel room the night before opening day. We were conversing about what patterns to fish. Since we hadn’t caught any measurable Trout as a team during river practice we were convinced it would be best to fish patterns in which WE have confidence. This “confidence fly factor” helped me win a WFFC session in my first worlds! Portugal ended up well with Team USA finishing in the top ten, and George and I qualified for the Finland team by finishing in the top 25. Luckily the comp water was much better than the practice water. By staying the course and fishing with confidence Team USA was able to scratch out a respectable finish.

In Finland we had a bit more intel, but we were fishing for Grayling, which most of the team hadn’t caught before, or those that had were mostly taken in high altitude alpine lakes. We had an extra 5 days or so of pre-fish time as well as 3 local guides, all of which are accomplished WFFC comp anglers. Fishing for Grayling on the Simo was very tough. Confidence was not terribly high, but we did feel like we were learning quickly and figuring out some tricks that might help come comp time. As the comp rolled on it was another “don’t blank” kind of event. If you landed a fish in each beat you placed very well. When all was said and done Team USA had posted its highest finish yet at the world level (6th) and I was lucky enough to be top rod for the USA which was a measly 27th individually.

New Zealand was different. First, it was NEW ZEALAND! The WFFC were to be held at a real fly fishing destination. Second, we were able to go over early and pre-fish the comp water before it closed to competitors. This helped me wrap my mind around each of the venues, and solidified the techniques and patterns necessary to maximize my catch. Team USA was quite confident going into the NZ worlds. We were out to better our top Team finish and really gel as a team. Although we fished hard and worked exceptionally well together we took a step back in our Team finish. Coming in at 8th place we were consistent on the rivers but the lakes proved to be difficult overall. During one of the lake sessions I shared a boat with Andrew Dixon of England. The English are well known for their lake prowess, and Dixon had me down two to nothing nearly halfway through the session. This lake was not producing many fish, so just landing A fish would help your score immensely. I started to realize I’d better turn it on and didn’t let myself get down. I rallied back and beat Dixon late in the session. Never give up on a session or a comp, things can change in a hurry and it only takes a few seconds to do so. NZ was an awesome experience and I feel lucky to have had the opportunity to participate.

Scotland was incredibly different, four lakes and one river session. Most WFFC’s have more rivers than lakes so this venue forced Team USA to find the best competitive lake anglers in the country. Anyone vying for a spot on the Scotland Team really had to concentrate on stillwater. The one river we did fish was known for Salmon, but not for Trout or Grayling. We learned this was for good reason. Trout and Grayling fishing on the River Tay is very difficult since there are low numbers of fish and it is a large river, so much of your beat was often inaccessible. Also adding difficulty was the fact that all the lake venues were closed for official and unofficial practice. This gave the home court advantage to the Scot’s and neighboring countries who had fished the famous Scottish Lochs previously. Team USA worked with our local guide on non-comp loch’s to learn the ways of native Scottish brown Trout and stocked, but not small rainbows and Blue Trout. Going into the sessions relatively blind is never fun, but it forces you to fish confidence patterns and concentrate on the things you do know. The 2009 WFFC was very difficult, and was another “don’t blank” event. I even won a session on Loch Awe (nicknamed Loch Awful) with only two small Trout. Team USA earned another top ten finish landing in 8th place. Not where we want to be, but relatively consistent nonetheless.

Photo: Lance with a November Utah Brown Trout.

Hamann: Now, I know this is a tough question so apologies before hand. With all the preparation, great expectations, and weight associated with representing your country at the largest angling stage in the world; what was your experience falling short of the medals each time? I ask this not to put you on the firing line, but because each angler goes through a similar roller coaster whether it’s a weekend mini-comp or the world championships. What emotions were you feeling? Regret? How did you regroup as a team and within your own competitive mindset?

Egan: I’m a pretty low stress guy, so I haven’t ever felt any weight placed on me to do anymore than I expect of myself. As far as falling short of the medals, since fishing with and learning about Team USA I have confidence that we have sent top notch comp anglers to each WFFC that were fishing to the best of their abilities. Each Team I’ve been a part of has worked together to achieve the best result possible. That said, we have come up short of the medals but we have improved. In my opinion the general American angling public grossly underestimates the talent and commitment of the winning teams in the WFFC. As Americans we assume we are best at most things and many sports we are. So far, fly fishing isn’t one of them. Keep in mind competition angling is still quite new to our country and very new to fly fishing in America. In most of Europe competition fly fishing is what drives their fly fishing market. In America the opposite is true. Most American fly fishers don’t know the WFFC’s exist, or that we field a team to participate. As a WFFC competitor I always keep my sights set on medals, and prepare to fish my tail off and work with Team USA to maximize our results. At the end of each WFFC I’m usually totally exhausted and I like to regroup by thinking of ways I could improve rather than dwelling on what didn’t go as planned. Each WFFC has been a very positive experience for me and I hope to participate in more events in the future so long as I’m still competitive!

Hamann: Congratulations on the new addition to your family. How has the birth of your son changed your outlook on fishing/life?

Egan: Thank you. Mikey is an awesome addition to our family. He is a ton of fun. Autumn and I look forward to many days on the water with him. When the weather permits we have taken Mikey onstream with us. I carry him around in a “baby bjorn” front pack that lets him take in all the action. He is totally enamored with the outdoors and shows some curiosity for the fish! Mikey hasn’t changed my outlook on fishing much, at least not yet. I think when he is big enough to wade a stream my fishing will change. If he is interested in fishing I’ll likely spend as much time as he can stand helping him understand the intricacies of his fathers’ addiction.

Hamann: In a recent interview current Leader Board Top Rod holder Devin Olsen credited you with being one of the people who sculpted his way into competitive fly fishing. It’s truly a unique scenario when you find yourself at the highest level of a sport alongside those you’ve tutored. Can you speak to your techniques for guiding top level anglers? Please know, this answer can’t be too long.

Egan: Devin is a great friend and fishing partner, he is also a very talented angler and deserves to be considered one of the top competition fly fishers in our country.

I’ve been blessed with some great friendships that have developed because of comp angling. Sharing info or bouncing ideas off of another trusted comp angler can be very productive. I have several Team medals from various North American competitions cluttering my fishing room because of this sharing of knowledge and teamwork.

I do a little guiding now and then and really get a kick out of helping someone who is honestly interested in learning more about ways to improve their fly fishing. It doesn’t get much better than seeing someone’s fishing skills dramatically improve in a few hours. The elation and excitement they show can be overwhelming. Because each angler is different it is very difficult to speak to specific techniques to improve one’s fly fishing but….Warning, shameless plug ahead: I can be hired to teach competition techniques. Please email me at lancefish@hotmail.com with questions.

Hamann: Who are some of the greatest tutors that have shaped your game? Tell us about a few of your big learning experiences near and far?

Egan: I’ve been cursed or blessed, depending on how you look at it. I don’t come from a fishing family so I really never had anyone to tutor me. I was introduced to fly fishing by a neighbor who was kind enough to take me fishing, lend me some gear and say “see ya’ at dark”. Needless to say I had very little success early in my fly fishing career. On the bright side I learned the hard way what didn’t work. This helped me eliminate bad water and poor techniques. I mostly found success by fishing often enough to retain the knowledge gained after each outing. As any angler will tell you, time on the water is priceless.

I’ve worked in fly shops since high school and have definitely benefitted from many knowledgeable work associates starting with Dave Curneal and Andrew Benson of Willow Creek Outfitters. They gave me my first opportunity to work in the fly fishing industry and encouraged me to expand my fly tying abilities. Talking fish all day at work lets me constantly ponder the workings of our finned friends. Much info can be gathered from other peoples’ experience on the water.

I left Willow Creek to work for Fish Tech Outfitters. Mickey Anderson, Byron Gunderson, Bryan Jarvis, Jim Gunderson and the gang at Fish Tech taught me a lot about fishing in general but their expertise in stillwater fishing is what I remember learning most. My fly tying skills also improved at Fish Tech because I was surrounded by amazing tyers and I had the opportunity to tie most of the custom order flies. Building “the only one that works” for hundreds of anglers allowed me to learn new patterns and tying techniques that I otherwise wouldn’t have tried.

Currently I work for Cabelas in Lehi, Utah. At Cabelas I’ve been able to work and fish with other anglers who share my competitive fly fishing gene. Ryan Barnes, Devin Olsen, Tanner Tenbrink and others have helped me keep my fishing mind and abilities sharp. We stay quite busy at Cabelas and this allows me to talk to a lot of anglers about gear, rigging, techniques etc… as well as gather precious fishing reports which in turn help me to better understand our fisheries.

Photo: Egan testing his Sage Z-Axis 697-4 on a Scottish Loch Rainbow.

Hamann: Working in a Cabelas I’m sure you can’t help but be a gear junkie in some form or another. What are some of the new pieces of gear you would highly recommend to other competitors – anything from hooks to boats.

Egan: I am definitely a gear junkie. My current favorites include:
Sage Z-Axis series rods. For moving water the 4100-4 is my fav. The 390-4, 496-4 and 5100-4 are also quite nice depending on the characteristics of the waterway I’m facing. For those looking for river sticks at a lower price check out the Cabelas CZN in the 10 foot 4 or 9 ½ foot 3 weight. They aren’t the same performers as the Z-Axis, but they are a third of the price. For lakes I favor the 697-4 Z-Axis.

Reel wise I’m a fan of products that will last. Reels I can count on in competition. Ross Reels and Lamson Reels are my current favorites. My fav’s are the Evolution LT and Litespeed.

My river floating fly lines are all Scientific Anglers Sharkskin in the Ultimate Trout Taper. I prefer the blue heron color. The Sharkskin has its critics, but I’m not one of them. Keep the good stuff coming SA! Sinking lines I’m not a one brand man. I really like the SA Uniform Sink Plus series as well as their professional series or “wet cell”. These two series of lines fish quite different and I find it beneficial to have both spooled up in various sink rates. I’m also using Airflo sixth sense lines in some sink rates. These lines definitely offer better contact than other brands but I have more trouble keeping them from tangling than other brands. The jury is still out on this one… The Cortland Clear Camo and Rio midge tip and deep 7 round out my lake line selection.

Waders and boots are easy. Simms. Any Gore-tex wader Simms makes will treat you well. My current set is the G3 guide model. The Rivershed boot is awesome. I have them in the old aquastealth and the newer vibram sole. Both are nice, but I wish Simms still made it in aquastealth with the FIXED carbide tipped studs rather than the screw in option. They just aren’t the same…

I’m still fishing in an old William Joseph Gear Bag Chest. Think of the predecessor to the confluence. It still works great and I’m incredibly used to where everything is located. I hear the confluence will be available with the magnet closures on the front pack for 2011. This could mean it is time for a new pack.

Smith polarized sunglasses make it easier to see the fish and the structure that holds fish. The styles that fit my fat head best are the Maverick and Riverside. I like the copper lens best for all light conditions.

I’d like to own an aluminum boat and a drift boat, but currently my budget doesn’t allow for either so I practice most of my lake fishing out of an Outcast PAC 9000 pontoon boat. With the electric trolling motor rigged up it is a great craft to explore lakes. Take the motor off and I use it to float some of the larger rivers around my area.

Photo: Lance and his son Mikey fishing Utah Creek.

Hamann: How do you feel your home waters of Utah have shaped you as a competitive angler? How do you choose your practice destinations whether they be on lake or river and how do you attack those sessions?

Egan: My home waters are quite diverse. In Utah we have lots of smallish streams with few large rivers. Needless to say, I’ve spent far more time wading rivers than floating in a drift boat. Since most river competition sessions are spent wading I believe this has benefitted my comp angling. Covering miles of river from a boat is very enjoyable but doesn’t offer the same level of learning that slowly covering water while wading allows.

I spend more days per year on Utah’s Provo River than any other fishery. The Provo is remarkable in that it is literally minutes away from millions of people, yet it still has an overabundance of trout and offers great fishing. Because it is close to so many people it gets a lot of pressure. Pressured fish become difficult to catch and require better presentations to fool large numbers of Trout. I believe the toughness and technicality of the Provo have made me a better angler.

When choosing practice destinations I consider the techniques I’d like to concentrate on and head to places that offer me the best option for the given technique or conditions I’m after. Generally I just go and fish. Trying to learn new water types or find new effective flies. If I’m really trying to mimic a comp I’ll create a beat and work to maximize my catch within its boundaries. Most of the time I just fish…

Hamann: If you were stranded on a deserted Island in the middle of the Ocean what one album would you bring; Bob Marley’s “Legend” ? Just kidding, but you guessed it – here comes the standard fly question. What 12 trusted flies would you take into battle? 6 for rivers, 6 for lakes? A little background or detail on lesser known patterns is always appreciated.

Egan: Tough one….. Probably The Doors, Soft Parade or L.A. Woman, but the Beastie Boys, Paul’s Boutique would be up there along with any Zeppelin album.

For rivers: Iron Lotus, Frenchie, Tungsten Surveyor, Rainbow Warrior, Corn Fed Caddis, Parachute Adams, and Rubber Leg Wooly Bugger. Oops that was 7. Why not make it 10, Stimulator, Prince Nymph and Rubber Leg Stone. The first 5 are patterns of mine that Umpqua sells. The Iron Lotus, Frenchie and Tungsten Surveyor feature tungsten beads and weighted bodies right from Umpqua. The Rainbow Warrior is available in a glass bead, tungsten bead or tungsten bead with leaded body. The Corn Fed Caddis is a high floating CDC pattern great for fooling selective trout or to hold up a dropper.

For lakes: Black Mini Leech, Red Krystal Killer, Black Wooly Bugger, Black/red Chronomid, Damselfly Nymph and a Soft Hackle Hares Ear/callibaetis nymph. If we go to 10… Blob, Seal Bugger, Olive/gray Scud and Egg Sucking Leech.

Photo: Lance with a breathtaking New Zealand Stillwater Rainbow.

Hamann: Speaking of flies. As an accomplished fly designer for Umpqua Feather Merchants do you spend a lot of time these days developing new patterns for competition or have you settled on a few trusted ones? In the scope of effort and technique how much weight do you give to the “fly” as factor for winning competitions?

Egan: On a scale of 1 – 10, 10 being totally the reason for winning and 1 being no factor at all I’d give the fly a 4. Proper technique and approach far outweigh the fly.

I still spend a lot of time tinkering with fly patterns. I think it is fun to see what kind of conglomerations will take fish. In a competition I tend toward my “go to” patterns unless I stumble upon a silver bullet during practice.

Hamann: And not to get too pun oriented, but how much weight do you give to the notion that as an angler’s skill increases they start fishing progressively lighter and lighter nymphs in more situations?

Egan: I’ve noticed a natural progression toward lighter flies as anglers become more comfortable with Euro-style tactics. That said, some still fish heavy flies with great success. I believe it comes down to each individual and their confidence technique or patterns

Photo: Lance working a beat on the Whanganui at the New Zealand 2008 World Fly Fishing Championships.

Hamann: We know you’re all ready a big fan of TroutLegend.com, but what are a few other sources that have helped you refine your technique and knowledge over the years such as Books, Videos, or Internet Sites?

Egan: Books: Presentation by Gary Borger, Czech nymph by Karel Krivanec, Fly Fishing and Fly Tying II by Jaromir Karafiat and Miroslav Machacek. DVD: A Japanese film of the 2004 WFFC in Slovakia.

Hamann: How much time do you spend practicing Loch Style vs River fishing? Do you have any advice for North American anglers hoping to keep up with European competitors in this arena?

Egan: I tend to fish lakes spring and fall and rivers summer and winter. I mix it up a bit all year though. Roughly 60% river and 40% lake. The top fly anglers in the world are good at it all. If you are working toward competing in the WFFC’s make sure you are a well rounded angler.

Hamann: Are you a proponent of the “1 rod/leader to do everything” setup or do you prefer to string several rods more precisely tuned to specific disciplines on river beats?

Egan: I tend to use one rod/leader for most techniques. If I set up additional rods one will often be a duplicate of the first, the other a streamer rod.

Photo: Lance with a New Zealand Rainbow.  (Credit George Daniel)

Hamann: Are you one of those devout competitors who fishes nothing but fips-mouche style all the time? What kind of fishing do you like to do just for fun?

Egan: When fly fishing I fish nothing but Fips rules. ( I do a bit of ice fishing and some bass fishing with conventional gear) When I first learned the Fips rules I thought they were very strange and quite limiting. Now I realize that is a common reaction, after all, most Americans didn’t learn to fish utilizing Fips styles and new stuff scares us. Rules I once thought were limiting have now helped me become a much better and more efficient angler. Now I understand the disadvantages many conventional American techniques create.

I like all kinds of fishing, so I consider all of it fun. If I had to pick one type of fishing to do the rest of my life it would be picking apart pocket water on a medium sized stream utilizing a dry/dropper rig.

Hamann: What drives you? I mean, at the root, why do you want to stay on Fly Fishing Team USA and compete on the International stage?

Egan: I’m competitive by nature, and I love to fish. I’ve always been searching for ways to improve my fishing and learn more about the fish in an effort to maximize my catch. I fish to catch fish, not just to go, although I do enjoy just getting out…

I want to stay on Fly Fishing Team USA because I’d like to be a part of the Team that breaks through and Medals at the World Championships. I’d like to help put Americans on the International Fly Fishing map. Just in my WFFC experiences I’ve seen the European’s outlook on us as anglers change. It wasn’t very long ago that the competitors from other countries didn’t worry at all about Americans. We’d get on the bus after a session and no one would ask how many fish we caught because they were sure they out fished us. Now, many competitors will ask us before some of the perennial greats because they have taken notice that we are improving. We aren’t winning yet, but we are getting better. I’d like to be there when we have our first moment of World Fly Fishing triumph!

Hamann: Thank you kindly for the interview. In closing I’d like to ask you a bit of a different question. Since you’ve seen it from many sides what is your take on the evolution and growth of competitive fly fishing in North America over the last decade? How do you see it evolving over the next 10 years? How would you like to see it evolve over the next 10 years?

Egan: Competitive Fly Fishing has come a long way in North America. 10 years ago there were no Team USA trials or nationals. Now we have comps to whittle down to the finest we have to offer. As more get involved the level of competition will improve. I’m amazed at how many Americans are still anti-competition. I understand most anglers don’t want fly fishing to turn into a big money, big advertising campaign. It won’t, simply because the fly fishing industry can’t and won’t support it. The great thing about the WFFC’s is the lack of winnings and the focus on conservation.

Fly fishing competition is not for everyone. Those who enjoy it will pioneer techniques and tackle thus improving the experience for all involved. Just like ski racing isn’t for everyone, but it has helped advance ski technology creating better products benefitting the recreational skier. I hope as American’s we begin to realize fly fishing competition isn’t harmful – that we can take advantage of the innovation, and learning opportunities it presents.

Photo: Egan accepting Gold at the Teva Mountain Games.

Lance Egan’s Track Record:
-International Sportsmans Expositions distance fly casting events:
2001 Salt Lake city, UT ISE 1st place
2001 Best of the West, 2nd place
2002 Phoenix, AZ ISE 2nd place
2002 Salt Lake City, UT ISE 1st place
2002 Best of the West, 2nd place
2003 Pomona, CA ISE 2nd place
2003 Pleasanton, CA ISE 1st place
2003 Best of the West, 4th place
2004 Pomona, CA ISE 3rd place
2004 Pleasanton, CA ISE 2nd place
-2003 ESPN Fly Fishing Challenge
2nd place
-2003 ESPN Great Outdoor Games Fly Fishing Event
1st place – Gold medalist
-2004 ESPN Great Outdoor Games Fly Fishing Event
1st place – Gold medalist
-2004 OLN Fly Fishing Masters, West
2nd place
-2005 Teva Mountain Games
Fly Fishing 1st place – Gold medalist
-2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010
Fly Fishing Team U.S.A. Member
-2006 National Fly Fishing Championship Qualifiers
Fresno, CA 1st place – Gold medalist
Heber City, UT 2nd place – Silver medalist
-2006 National Fly Fishing Championships Boulder, Colorado
Gold medal team
-2006 High Mountain Masters Aspen, Colorado
3rd place team
-2006 World Fly Fishing Championships, Portugal
8th Team, 24th Individually
-2007 VERSUS Fly Fishing Masters
First place team
-2007 National Fly Fishing Championships Boulder, Colorado
Silver medal team
-2007 World Fly Fishing Championships, Finland
27th Individually, Lead Team USA to highest finish ever – 6th
-2008 World Fly Fishing Championships, New Zealand
8th Team, 24th Individually
-2008 Canadian National Championships, Mont Tremblant
Gold Medal Team (Team USA)
-2009 National Fly Fishing Championships Qualifiers
Bend, Oregon 1st place – Gold Medalist
Bozeman, Montana 2nd place — Silver Medalist
-2009 World Fly Fishing Championships, Scotland
8th Team, 35th Individually
-2009 National Fly Fishing Championships State College, PA
Gold Medal Team, Silver Medalist Individually
-2010 America Cup Frisco, Colorado
Gold Medal Team (Team USA), Silver Medalist Individually
-2010 Utah Single Fly Green River, Utah
Most Trout individually (43 Trout), First Place Team (Cabelas)

Interview with Terence Courtoreille by Dejon Hamann

Hamann: You’ve competed in every single Canadian National Championship since they began in 2003. Let’s go back a little further though to when you made the switch to “comp” style fishing. What was the impetus? Were there some influential sources for you in those first years?

Courtoreille: The ‘switch’ really wasn’t much more than a group of anglers from the Northwest Territories wanting to attend the 2003 Nationals as a fishing trip. At that time, we knew nothing about competition fishing however we were eager to see what it was all about. Our original team back then was organized by Mac Stark, who is a NWT resident and veteran with Fly Fishing Canada. Under Mac’s tutelage, surprisingly enough, we finished second, earning a silver medal. Individually, we had two members medal and I recall finishing 10th. Needless to say, we were immediately hooked. I continue to fish with one of those original teammates today (John Nishi) and Mac continues to be a very good angling friend and mentor to me.

Hamann: Now a decade later and five world championships under your belt how do you continue to evolve your game? What are some of the sources that help you keep your edge and improving your technique?

Courtoreille: Firstly, I try to practice as much as I possibly can. Given where I live this isn’t as often as I like, so I use every opportunity to practice competition techniques. Secondly, I’m not afraid to ask questions. Over the years, I have befriended a number of teammates, fellow competitors and ex-competitors who are always willing to exchange information. Within Fly Fishing Canada, I look to individuals such as Randy Taylor, John Beaven and Donald Thom for guidance and advice. The transfer of information is simple. When these guys are talking, I shut up and listen.

Hamann: Every country organizes its world team a bit different. Could you tell us a little about how some of the teams you’ve been on have prepared for World play and approached the Fips Championships?

Courtoreille: The Canadian approach in preparing for a World Championship really hasn’t changed since I’ve been a member. We usually try to arrive 10 days prior to the official practice. As with other teams, we will use this time to sort out our flies and techniques so that when the official practices comes, we’re all fishing confidently with a plan. At the end of our unofficial practice, every venue will have a specific fly box equipped with the flies only to be used for that venue. Our goal with this approach is to discourage teammates from prospecting with new flies during the competition sessions. Remember this is a timed event. The last thing we want is a competitor scratching his head, while staring at his fly box trying to figure out what to use.

I usually organize this box into 3 row combinations of casts (top, middle, point). This allows me to change flies and fly combinations quickly without thinking about what to use. All of this is thought out in advance so that when the competition comes all you have to do is execute. Sounds easy eh?
Interestingly enough, Canada’s top placings at the Worlds were in 2008 in New Zealand and 2009 in Scotland. At both events, we had a contingency travel to the competition venues one year in advance for reconnaissance. I truly believe this is another piece to being successful on the World stage. However in Canada’s case, all travel is self financed by the team members, so this isn’t possible every year.

Hamann: What about at the National level? Canada uses an interesting system for organizing its team members.

Courtoreille: Originally, I believe the intentions were to have provincial representation at our National Championships. However, we haven’t quite evolved to that point yet. As a result, our National events are open and anglers are free to organize themselves into teams. My teammates are all past National members who are from all over Canada and we approach the National events very similar to that of an international event…we try to arrive early, work as team to sort out our flies and techniques and stick to the game plan.

Hamann: What difficulties have you experienced in your career living in the Northwest Territories? Are you attacked by Polar Bears often while fishing? Do you guys have an endless supply of seals fur? Just kidding of course. Seriously though, that’s quite a remote area. Other anglers stranded by “geography” might be able to draw from your experience.

Courtoreille: Fortunately, we don’t have polar bears or seals to contend with, but geography is definitely a challenge. We do have a few options to fish grayling where I live, but nothing for trout. I have a 4 ½ hour drive to the nearest trout lake and approximately 11 hours to the nearest trout stream. This by far is my biggest challenge as it limits my time on the water. In dealing with this, every session I get on the water, whether recreational or not is FIPS Mouche compliant. This ensures I get as much practice as possible given my geographical limitations.

Hamann: All right. Let’s do the obligatory: what 12 trusted flies would you take into battle? 6 for rivers, 6 for lakes? Little background or detail on lesser known patterns is always appreciated but not required.

Courtoreille: Admittedly my list of favorite competition patterns has been influenced by fellow competitors over the years. Let’s face it, the Czech’s and French are better at fishing rivers and the English are better at fishing lakes than we are. So it makes sense to not only copy their techniques but also their patterns. So here’s my list as it stands this month.
For Rivers, don’t leave home without variations of a Pheasant Tail Nymph, Hares Ear Nymph, Czech Nymph and Pheasant Tail Nymph (hint, hint); my ‘go to’ dry is a standard Elk Hair Caddis and the March Brown soft hackle is my preferred wet. For Lakes, the Booby and Blob are an absolute. I wouldn’t step into a boat without these two patterns in my box. The Cormorant, Cruncher and Snatcher cover off the ‘small’ stuff and are always somewhere on my cast. Finally, make sure you always have a black Wolly Bugger in the quiver.
In general, I always tie a hot spot and use UV wherever I can and don’t forget to downsize your patterns as much as possible.

Hamann: Speaking of loch style. You’ve medaled gold at both an all river national and an all lake national. What are some of your keys to being successful at the loch game? Are you a man of many lines? Local intel? Just straight practice time on the water? I know it’s a vast subject, but maybe you could elucidate a few facets of your technique or philosophy for us?

Courtoreille: I’ve always considered myself to be stronger on rivers than lakes. So the success I had last summer was a pleasant surprise. In evaluating this it’s important to remember that competitive fly fishing is a team sport. 5 anglers working together will always out perform the individual. As such, I listen and contribute to our team discussions as much as possible and I never waiver from the team strategy. I think this above all was the key to success last summer. I had one other teammate medal at this competition (Todd Oishi) and believe 2 others finished within or close to the top ten, so being well organized and sharing information as a team has paid off.

Hamann: Let’s be honest. Most fly fisher-people are serious gear junkies – especially “comp” fly fisher-people. What are some of the pieces of gear you just couldn’t do without in the last few years? Anything from a hook to a boat is game.

Courtoreille: Funny you mention hooks. I think this is one area that anglers often over look or take for granted. If there’s one piece of equipment to not cheap out on, it’s hooks. After all, it’s the only point of contact you have with the fish. I’m not necessarily brand loyal, but I am model loyal. I am constantly migrating to the TMC 2499, Hanak 260 BL and of course the B175…it’s an oldie but a goodie.
Everyone has their preferences for rods, reels and lines and all will vary according to the conditions so I won’t go into that. I will say however, the one area that has changed significantly over the last 7 years since I’ve been competing is tying materials. Not to criticize our North American manufacturers, but the dyed colours and types of materials that we’re getting from across the pond are truly cutting edge.

Hamann: Why do you do this? This sport can be so taxing emotionally not to mention the great draw on personal funds with travel and gear. Especially for Canadian anglers who must fund their own way to every World Championship with an average cost of seven grand a piece. At the root, what drives you to be a perennial part of Fly Fishing Team Canada and compete on the International stage?

Courtoreille: Fly fishing is an easy sport to engage, but I find competitive fly fishing purely addictive. Perhaps this is due to my personality. I am competitive by nature and love to be challenged. If I wasn’t fishing, I’d probably be competing in some other sport/hobby so it’s a matter of prioritizing. For now, this is what I enjoy doing and probably will continue to do so as long as I can contribute to the team.

Hamann: Thank you for the interview. Do you have any closing thoughts for new comers to the sport or those that might be considering giving competitive fly fishing a try?

Courtoreille: My first tip to anybody considering a competition is to read the rules. I don’t mean this from an enforcement point of view, but rather to change people’s fishing mentality. As an example, North American anglers are infamous for trying to catch the ‘big one’. However in competition, a lot of little fish produces more points. In reading the rules, think outside your ‘fishing box’ and make the rules work to your advantage.

Finally, fly fishing is one of those sports that appeals to so many people. If competition fly fishing is something that vaguely tweaks your interest, I’d highly recommend it. The networking and learning opportunities are staggering. If you’re still on the fence, volunteering at a competition is another way to get involved and learn more about the sport.

Courtoreille’s Track Record:
-Competitor at every Canada National Fly Fishing Championship since the events inaugural year in 2003. During that 8 year period he won 5 team medals (2 gold, 1 silver, 2 bronze) and 2 individual medals (both gold) and have finished in the top 10 five of the eight years. The first individual gold was in 2006, Grand River Ontario and the 2nd gold was (2010) in Roblin Manitoba.
-9th Place Finish US National Championship 2007, Boulder Colorado.
-6 time Canadian National team member attending one Commonwealth Championship and 5 World Championships.

Just announced. North America’s largest Fly Fishing Tournament is back in 2011.

(5x) The America Cup International Fly Fishing Tournament – September 15-18. Vail, Colorado US. For more info: HERE

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We are very proud to announce the introduction of two new teams into the TroutLegend Competitive Fly Fishing Cooperative:  “Team America Cup” based near Denver, Colorado led by David Pehle and “Team TroutLegend Utah” based near Salt Lake City, Utah led by Jeremy Allan.  The addition of these 2 Rocky Mountain loci will greatly enhance the Coop’s mission to support and grow the culture of Fips-Mouche style competitive fly fishing in North America.

Both of these teams are looking for talented new Members.  Whether you’re a new and ambitious beginner in the comp’ circuit or a “tried and true” veteran being a part of a team is the best way to enhance your skill set and give back to the sport.  Contact information and team updates for both of these squads can be found here in the forum under their respective team boards.